PDA

View Full Version : B1 - Length of Stay


dablue
06-08-2009, 01:18 PM
Hi Folks,

I've got my embassy appointment this Friday and I just wanted to clarify something before hand.

I've been in talks with a fairly recent startup company (with a national US presence) in regards to bringing their products to the European market next year.

I'm going over to thrash out business plans, strategies, identifying and reporting on potential customers my partner and I have been in talks with. I know I could have completed this trip on a visa waiver BUT I wanted to get a B1 because there may be the option where my involvement becomes more formal and they may want to try and sponsor my application for a H1B. Am I right in thinking that if I am on the visa waiver, I wouldn't be able to apply for a H1B while I am in the US - I would need to come back to the UK to apply for it and go back out there? Obviously I don't relish the thought of flying half way round the world and spending another $1k if I can apply for a change of status while I am there.

I want to point out, I'm NOT being paid or employed by the company at this point, we're simply in negotiations. I am doing this and funding the trip off my own back in the hopes that I will reap the rewards down the line.

I know the VWP allows for 90 days and the B1 allows for a maximum of 180 days with the option to apply for an extension. I am self employed anyway, and luckily as my work is based online I have the benefit of being able to work from anywhere in the world with a decent internet connection. I can furnish the immigration officer with proof that I can fund this trip.

My question is regards to my length of stay... The point is I don't know precisely how long I need to stay in the country and I know that will ring massive alarm bells with immigration... I already got flagged about 8 years ago for doing 2 consecutive 90 day stays back to back... Since then I've had a J1 visa for a university exchange and (touch wood) I've not had any issues, but then again I've only gone over for 2 weeks here and 2 weeks there.

If I put down that I plan to stay for say 3 months, and assuming I am admitted, will I only be entitled to stay for 3 months on the B1 or will I be entitled to stay for 6 months as per the limit on the B1? For example if you go for a 2 week holiday on the VWP, you do have the option of extending your stay to the max of 90 days.

The bottom line is, I want to give myself as much flexibility with time (ideally 6 months) but I don't want the immigration officer to question my motives and risk not getting admitted. Obviously I respect the US immigration rules and I'm trying to do it all by the book. If the trip doesn't turn into something more concrete with employment being offered I have no hesitation that it could all be conducted on the VWP, but the company and I want to keep the option open for the change of status to a H1B.

I know the chances of securing a H1B aren't in my favour, I know it's a lottery, but at least I will have the option.

I have a letter from the company detailing all this.

If anyone can shed any light on this I'd appreciate it.

Thank you in advance

Ray10
06-08-2009, 01:43 PM
99% of Visa Waivers are automatically stamped for a 90 day period

B-1 are often reduced times but the standard is 6 months

The H is not a lottery this year but will probably be filled in the next month
or so
you cannot then apply then until April 2010 for an Oct 2010 start

dablue
06-08-2009, 01:53 PM
Thanks for the reply...

What do you think about the return date? If I put a 3 months stay will I get a 3 month stamp or will it be 6 months? or is that purely a decision for the immigration officer?

Thanks

Ray10
06-08-2009, 02:08 PM
Thanks for the reply...

What do you think about the return date? If I put a 3 months stay will I get a 3 month stamp or will it be 6 months? or is that purely a decision for the immigration officer?

Thanks

If you manage to get a B-1 and thats no guarantee

The POE always makes the final decision but
they will probably give you the full 180 days

dablue
06-08-2009, 02:13 PM
ok, thanks

InnVic
06-08-2009, 05:16 PM
I thought you had to have a return ticket? Economy flights don't usually have an "open ended" return option.

Ray10
06-08-2009, 06:09 PM
I thought you had to have a return ticket? Economy flights don't usually have an "open ended" return option.

Thats a requirement of the visa waiver ...

dablue
06-08-2009, 06:32 PM
I intend to book a return flight - 3 months from my arrival, however...

What I'm specifically concerned about is if it is possible to travel out on a B-1 and if the option is available to me (i.e. I get sponsored through an employer while I am there), will I be able apply to change my status ot a H-1B. I know it's not guaranteed I will get one, but is there anything wrong with that...? Or more importantly will the immigration officer admit me based on that premise?

Ray10
06-08-2009, 08:08 PM
I intend to book a return flight - 3 months from my arrival, however...
What I'm specifically concerned about is if it is possible to travel out on a B-1 and if the option is available to me (i.e. I get sponsored through an employer while I am there), will I be able apply to change my status ot a H-1B. I know it's not guaranteed I will get one, but is there anything wrong with that...? Or more importantly will the immigration officer admit me based on that premise?
You can look for emplyment on a B-1/2

Application for H1B visas can only be made on the Ist April ( the usually run out the same day )

You then cannot start work until the 1st Oct ( you can go in the country 10 days earlier to prepare though)

And for an H1B is has to be a speciality occupation and you will need the neecessary degree or 12 plus experience


Adjusting status while in the country is a dangerous game ..is does not give you a visa ...visa can only be obtained outside the US

so you would not be able to get back into the country if you left without getting the visa first ....

dablue
06-08-2009, 08:42 PM
Thanks Ray...

It seems there's some conflicting stuff on the netwith regards to the 2009 quota. It's probably heresay but I've read the quotas aren't full yet... Well as of May.

My letter from the company specifically outlines the reason I'm trying for a B-1 and not travelling on the VWP is in case there is a desire to change status... I've genuinely no idea if it will / will not happen. I won't know until I've been there for X weeks... But I know even if there is a desire, I know I'm not guaranteed anything.

The (voluntary) work I will be doing in the US is specifically geared towards setting up exports to Europe and I am / will be managing the relations this side of the pond. Will that not count as evidence I'm coming back to the UK?

I'm just worried that the mention of the intent (whether it will happen or not) of a change from a B-1 to a H-1B during the visit will harm my chances of 1. Getting the visa and 2. Being admitted!

dablue
06-15-2009, 06:06 PM
visa approved :)

Callie
06-15-2009, 06:23 PM
Great stuff...what sort of questions did they ask you?

kirtida8
06-15-2009, 06:29 PM
congrats :)