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Susie
05-07-2007, 05:07 AM
http://www.insidebayarea.com/oaklandtribune/ci_5807837



Congressional talks stall on families
GOP proposal would give preference to skilled workers
By Julie Hirschfeld Davis, Associated Press
Article Last Updated: 05/03/2007 02:53:11 AM PDT


WASHINGTON — Who should get a preference when it comes to immigrants?
For decades, relatives of those already in the United States have moved to the front of the line.

The White House and senior Republican lawmakers now want to strictly limit the influx of family members and give preference to skilled workers sought by employers. Democrats say that is inhumane and impractical.

Sen. Edward M. Kennedy,

D-Mass., says the issue has become "one of the most contentious" in pulling together a broad immigration bill upon which Republicans and Democrats can agree. The idea is to give many of the nation's 12 million illegal immigrants a chance at citizenship and create a guest-worker program for new arrivals.

"It would be a huge mistake to expand employment-based immigration at the expense of our historic tradition of family-based immigration," Kennedy, one of the key negotiators, said in a speech this week.

Nearly two-thirds of legal permanent residents admitted last year were family-sponsored immigrants, while less than 12.6 percent came in based on employment preferences, according to the Homeland Security Department. Roughly one-fourth fell into other categories, such as refugees and aslyum seekers.

Reshaping immigration laws is a priority for President Bush, who wants it as part of his domestic legacy. It also would be a popular achievement for Democrats to take to voters in the next election.

Senate Democratic leaders have promised


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to bring up a measure, with or without GOP agreement, within two weeks.
Bush put in a plug Wednesday for a swift compromise. "I will work with both Republicans and Democrats to get a bill to my desk before the summer is out, hopefully," he told a contractors' trade group in Washington.

Curbing the flow of immigrants' family members into the U.S. — sometimes referred to as "chain migration" — has become a cause celebre for Sen. Jon Kyl, R-Ariz., a prominent conservative trying to broker the deal.

The White House, working to win GOP support for an immigration overhaul, included Kyl's hard-line stance on family members in an early discussion draft and has sought to preserve at least some limits as part of any compromise.

Under the White House proposal, legal immigrants would lose the right to petition to bring adult children and siblings to the U.S. They could do so for spouses and minor children, but their ability to sponsor parents would be severely limited.

The proposal would limit or end preferences for people who had family members living legally in the U.S., and award many more visas based on employability criteria, such as education and skills.

Temporary workers could not bring family members at all unless they met a certain wealth threshold and had health insurance.

Last year's Senate-passed immigration bill did not change the treatment of family members. Conservatives are pleased the issue is now on the table; Democrats are alarmed.

A spat among Senate aides over how to draft the family-related provisions led to a blowup last week, briefly stalling the negotiations.

The talks picked up again this week.

Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said the vast majority of legal immigrants have entered the country on the basis of a family-based preference, meaning they "have no bearing on our national competitiveness or our global race for brains." Changing that, he said, is "a central reform."

Religious groups and Asian-American advocacy organizations are among the strongest opponents of the proposed changes.

"It would be a historic shift in U.S. immigration policy for them to do this," said Kevin Appleby of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. "Immigration reform cannot be won on the backs of families. ... You can't do reform on the cheap that way."

Karen Narasaki of the Asian American Justice Center said the proposal to do away with family-based visa preferences is "a cold calculation about numbers. They're trading off families for employers."

"They forget that there's value in family, that family is necessary in order to help immigrants integrate," Narasaki said.

Anti-immigration activists, however, say numbers matter.

"Our view is that the numbers are too high and we have to look at where they should be cut, and these (family) categories, it seems to us, are the easiest to cut because there's no real justification for them," said Rosemary Jenks of NumbersUSA.

Matthew Spalding, an analyst at the conservative Heritage Foundation, said allowing guest workers to bring family members puts a burden on taxpayers and encourages temporary workers to settle permanently in the U.S.

"Having (family preferences) defined too broadly essentially causes one to lose control of one's immigration policy," Spalding said. "To cut some sort of deal, they've got to figure out ways to keep this all under control."

Recent polls have shown that people overwhelmingly support giving illegal immigrants a path to citizenship, creating a temporary worker program and strengthening border security. But voters are more ambivalent about family-based immigration.

"People are really supportive of family immigration as a principle," said pollster David Mermin. "At the same time, there's this feeling that there need to be some limits, and nervousness about how easy and how extensive it will be."

Kriz1
05-07-2007, 12:39 PM
"Recent polls have shown that people overwhelmingly support giving illegal immigrants a path to citizenship"

This if you look around the web listen to late night TV and radio shows ...is not a true statment....I just think they hope if its said enough people will start to think its true....but the anti-illegal feeling is growing out there and I see dark times ahead...a lot of race troubles...

Sharon
05-08-2007, 03:50 AM
Quote by bush

"I will work with both Republicans and Democrats to get a bill to my desk before the summer is out, hopefully," he told a contractors' trade group in Washington.


My question is


How long does it take to pull your finger out?

Munish
05-08-2007, 06:13 AM
My questions is, when did the issue become employment or families? How are they a trade off. Why don't these politicians admit they want to cap the inflow of immigrants and that comes before family reunification and the American economy for them.

The Democrats have the majority and they have the ability to use that to their advantage if they stand in unity and do not argue amongst themselves on this issue. If they can pull this off, they have a real chance of an increased majority next year. If they can't the next Congress is going to be more of the same; the American people will get frustrated and remain confused about who to elect and will become tired of policy promises that slow up or get rejected in the Congressional process in this Congress. There will be a closely divided house, again with the Democrats probably getting a slim majority, forcing them to keep talking about "bipartsan" efforts, but in reality bickering among themselves and with the Republicans like playground school children and slowing down legislative refom because of it.

If there are senior Democrat members are reading this post, pull your socks up mate and get your party in order!

Kitty
05-09-2007, 11:09 PM
There is a simply answer to all this which to get real and unite families as top priorty. Then when all this has happened, sort out all the backloggs, errors and delays and last of all build a Berlin Wall to keep out other illegals entering the USA and once boarders are secure then deal with the illegals already in the us, they should be last on the list not first

Munish
05-09-2007, 11:22 PM
Yes, that is probably the smartest suggestion yet. The US could remove the cap completely for one year in relation to families and process all pending petitions. By doing so all you virtually kill two birds with one stone as most of the backlogs are due to the family based immigrant petitions and this would then be immiediately gone! But will that ever happen? I suspect not.

DEE F
05-10-2007, 12:13 AM
Yes, that is probably the smartest suggestion yet. The US could remove the cap completely for one year in relation to families and process all pending petitions. By doing so all you virtually kill two birds with one stone as most of the backlogs are due to the family based immigrant petitions and this would then be immiediately gone! But will that ever happen? I suspect not.

Dont be silly,that is far too easy,you would have them lying down all over congress sipping iced tea and asking themselves what are they doing wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:confused: :confused:


Dee xx