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floridapete
07-13-2006, 11:10 AM
Immigration is BIG business ! So many people with so many dreams - it's just like taking sweets off a child, taking big bucks of people who so dearly want to emigrate from everywhere to anywhere.

BUT BEWARE - THERE ARE SOME SHARKS IN THEM WATERS !

I have seen so many adverts over the years offering Green Card opportunities through jobs which are 'urgently required' in the USA. They always involve heavy upfront fees and stage payments while you wait for your application to be 'processed'. Meanwhile, these firms are just fishing for suckers and keep gently tugging on that line while the money is flowing. At the end, when the money dries up, the candidate realises that there was only a sharp hook at the end - not a Green Card at all !

Many years ago I was involved in pursuing a London firm all the way to Florida to catch up with their "guaranteed Green Card" which was based on the 'urgent need of HGV drivers in America'. They took adverts in all the UK and European truckers mags and got hundreds of these drivers signed up into their 'training scheme'. For an upfront fee of thousands of pounds they would go on monthly courses, flying into Sanford, and the course would be taken at a HGV driving school on the outskirts of Orlando. The school may stiil be there ! Of course, just anyone could take the HGV course (at that time prior to 9/11 things were VERY sloppy) - even people who just came into the USA on tourists visa waivers !

After the week long HGV course, they each 'passed' and were given a diploma of some sort. Then they were all sent back to the UK/Europe to 'await their job application being processed'. This would involve further amounts of thousands of pounds being handed over at regular intervals. How can these people have been so naive ? They were hearing everything that they WANTED to hear - that's why !

Of course, there was never going to be any jobs driving those big flashy trucks in the USA - because they have no shortage of their own HGV drivers. And such a job would never qualify to get a Green Card anyway !

Eventually, the UK and US authorities caught up with the wise-guys involved in this scam, with a little help from us. They caught one of the directors of the firm as he escorted yet another party of 'trainees' in through Sanford. He was jailed pending trial and the poor unwitting victims were turned right around and sent back home on the next flight. No training - no Green Cards - no nothing !

Eventually the guy was tried in a Fla. court, found guilty of immigration crime, jailed in a Fla. prison and then later deported to the UK to face further charges back here. His co-director of the UK company was also found guilty of fraud and 'banged up'.

Many hundreds of people lost thousands of pounds on that scam. They also lost their dreams.

A very good friend was one of them. I had tried to tell her that the firm she was expecting a Green Card job from was bent. But she didn't want to hear because she had already paid them £3,500 - and was still waiting two years later for that job and GC to come true. In the end she was one of the victims, by which time she had paid them over £6,000.

Fortunately, for her, a family sponsorship came good through her sister married to an American in Seattle and a US Ciitzen in her own right. She had filed that years before the 'relocation agency' fiasco, and it came up, by sheer luck, soon after she had fallen victim to the scam artists. In all it had taken eight years for her Green Card to come through from that family sponsorship.

Last I heard she was still struggling to make ends meet in the Winter Springs area north of Orlando. But she is 'living the dream' that she yearned for even though her daughter is still back in the UK and has absolutely no interest in joining Mum in America at all.

So do be careful who you are dealing with in the 'jobs for green cards' market !

Richard
07-13-2006, 05:47 PM
To view an article regarding "Unlicensed Practice of Law in Immigration" please go to the following link......

http://www.avalonfinance.com/upl_in_immigration.htm

Susie
07-14-2006, 04:44 AM
Hi Peter and Richard

I agree , you have to be so careful who you choose to trust your hard earned money to and with.

You have to be so careful of # Immigration Specialists #

You could try a name search of the person , check them out on www.whoswholegal.com even call the state bar to see if registered.

It is a bit like buying a rental home in Florida, every one should research, research and even research some more

A fool and his money etc.,People can be so trusting and beleive exactly what they want to hear, myself included in the past.

Cross the I's and dot the T's and even if it is in writing, this is sometimes not worth the paper it is written on but all you can do is try your best to cover and protect yourself

floridapete
07-14-2006, 09:09 AM
"Cross the I's and dot the T's, and even if it is in writing,"

You see, Susie, your Spell Checker didn't pick that one up ! :)

Ray10
07-14-2006, 12:54 PM
Intersting point ...But I can can find more reports of shall we call it bad activity by lawyers than I can Immigration Specialists....

Richard
07-14-2006, 03:20 PM
I don't profess to know immigration law, I leave that to the professionals and I am sure that there are bad immigration lawyers around as well as good visa consultants. However legally, the attornies can still practice immigration law.

We can only hope that through forums like this one we can identify the good ones and the bad ones so that others who follow us do not make the same mistakes that we did.

Susie
10-04-2006, 04:27 PM
Hi

I have been contacted by a couple who have handed over 3,000 pounds to obtain an E visa renewal.

This is to a uk incorporated company and visa specialist. The US company are business brokers in different name.

Does anyone know how I can check the share ratio of each company and also see if they are two separate business's or attached

I do know I can go to www.sunbiz.org but this will not give me the information I am looking for.

Also does anyone know if Compaines house in the UK will give out this information?

The couple are in the US renewing, so does not make sense to send pounds sterling unless maybe there is a legal reason why

floridapete
10-04-2006, 07:35 PM
Hi

I have been contacted by a couple who have handed over 3,000 pounds to obtain an E visa renewal.

This is to a uk incorporated company and visa specialist. The US company are business brokers in different name.

Does anyone know how I can check the share ratio of each company and also see if they are two separate business's or attached

I do know I can go to www.sunbiz.org but this will not give me the information I am looking for.

Also does anyone know if Compaines house in the UK will give out this information?

The couple are in the US renewing, so does not make sense to send pounds sterling unless maybe there is a legal reason why

Can you PM me the name of this US visa company that likes to deal in Pounds please ? I am investigating a company right now that used to be US based - now it appears to have switched to UK. It all has a bad smell about it !

I have already blocked their advertising in a well-known publication and managed to get them barred from an upcoming exhibition in order to protect the naive, gullible visitors who would lap-up everything they told 'em.

What more could I do ? :)

Susie
10-05-2006, 01:12 AM
Hi Peter

Have sent you a pm

As I said;

The US comapny are business brokers and UK company are visa specialists. I am trying to establish if it is legal to be a visa specialist and trade in the UK. If it is then so be it but I would like to find out a bit more info

The public must be made aware of the law and who is legal to give immigration advise as so many have thought they were given their money to experts, these type of people are misleading the public.

floridapete
10-10-2006, 01:01 PM
Someone on another thread here (which I can't now find again) recently said that they were in the Sarasota area and had been let down by an immigration 'advisor' who had taken their money and given them nothing before making off.

I asked them to please make contact with me privately to share with me (in confidence) the name of the scoundrel who had taken the money and ripped them off. I was hopeful that, with that information added to what I have recently been investigating, we might protect future people from being similarly ripped off again - and might even help this victim to catch up with the scam artist who did it ?

Unfortunately that person hasn't been in touch me yet and as I am going to an immigration show here in York on Saturday I am hopeful to have contact from them before then.

My e-mail is: FlaBritsCl@aol.com

Susie
10-10-2006, 05:05 PM
Hello Peter

I have sent you a pm

sassy
10-10-2006, 07:40 PM
Hi Peter PM me
Sassy from Sarasota