C visa-tranist visa-to pack up belonings

[Susie]

Hi

Spoke to attorney who said if you have been denied entry yet need to re-enter the USA to pack up belonings you should apply for C visa, this allows 30 days entre to do so.

I have never heard of this visa and will try and find out more, has anyone else heard of it or where you make application for one?

[anniefromessex]

Hi,

Just trawled through loads of stuff and ended up back on the London Embassy Website. Yes indeedy, there is such a Visa and basically it says if you are not eligible to transit the United States under the VWP (which my daughter in law cannot) or are not a national of a country where visa requirements are waived, you will be required to apply for a transit (C-1) Visa before travelling. Obviously have to provide evidence that you will be self supporting, have strong family ties etc etc. So why was that Visa not offered to my d-i-l. Do the staff there even know about it?

My d-i-l asked the question how to turn the denial round, could she speak to a Supervisor etc only to be met with hostility. When she applied for the appointment she explained to the guy her predicament, she wasn't actually asking for a B Visa - she was just applying for a Visa to travel - I tell you they have their brains up their a....!!!

Will be writing to Caulfield, and will let you all know what transpires, if anything!!!

Love Anniexxx

[v2002]

Hi annie.......This post is again only for you.
You got wrong information......don't waste your time on it anymore as C visa is strictly for transit travel...which means if I dont have valid visa to stay in USA and I am taking a flight from my place for destination other than USA which happens to be hub for my airline than I can get transit visa and break my journey at USA provided I have ongoing tickets confirmed in hand.

Normally transit visa can be taken at airport itself if one needs it for 48 to 72 hrs provided you arrange it with your airline at the time of booking.. but if you want to stay for over 72 hrs Transit visa can be availed only from consulate and it can be given for 29 days MAX.

****I don't understand how can someone say she can get C visa.
Lots of ignorance on visa's I guess. :D

In your DIL case she does not qualify to get TRANSIT VISA simply because she is not allowed to enter USA.

The problem here is not what kind of visa she can get....
The issue is her entry in usa....the only option I see is to talk to the CONSULATE GENERAL and REQUEST!!!! yes request his assistance to abtain ONE TIME limited entry for her in USA... explaining why she needs to be here supported by pictures of her house with copies of her home property showing her as property owner...you may be asked to post BOND on her behalf and also you may have to show proof that her house is already listed to be sold (proof of realtor listing the house) or proof that she is going to sign the papers on the house to be sold (incase you already have a buyer) and pack her belongings.

Like I told you in PM what to do.....feel free to send me mail if you have anyymore Questions.

Hi,

Just trawled through loads of stuff and ended up back on the London Embassy Website. Yes indeedy, there is such a Visa and basically it says if you are not eligible to transit the United States under the VWP (which my daughter in law cannot) or are not a national of a country where visa requirements are waived, you will be required to apply for a transit (C-1) Visa before travelling. Obviously have to provide evidence that you will be self supporting, have strong family ties etc etc. So why was that Visa not offered to my d-i-l. Do the staff there even know about it?

My d-i-l asked the question how to turn the denial round, could she speak to a Supervisor etc only to be met with hostility. When she applied for the appointment she explained to the guy her predicament, she wasn't actually asking for a B Visa - she was just applying for a Visa to travel - I tell you they have their brains up their a....!!!

Will be writing to Caulfield, and will let you all know what transpires, if anything!!!

Love Anniexxx

[Susie]

Hi Annie

I will take a look at the embassy website and post back a link here for the benefit of others who may need this option in the future


Please let us all know the outcome of any calls to Martinez's wife, Dave Weldon's office and others. I would definately make a formal complaint to the ombudsmans office about the officer at the embassy. All you daughter wanted was to speak to a supervisor to find a way/type of visa to enable her to come just to pack up her belongongs. I know the officer refused to give a name but you have the case number, date, day and time of interview and am sure this officer must have signed their name to the denial so traceable

I am shocked that the officer in the UK did not suggest your daughter could get a C visa and give her one there and then. To deny a visa is one thing, but they should have made your daughter aware of the C visa option

[Susie]

http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new/visa/niv/transit.html



C-1 Visa - Transit

In general, travelers in transit through the United States require valid C-1 visas. That is unless they are eligible to transit the United States visa free under the Visa Waiver Program (VWP), or they are a national of a country which has an agreement with the United States allowing their citizens to travel to the United States without visas.

If you are not eligible to transit the United States under the VWP, or are not a national of a country where visa requirements are waived, you will be required to apply for a transit (C-1) visa before traveling.
All C-1 visa applicants, even children and babies listed in parents' passports are required to:

Complete the visa application form DS-156.

Pay a visa application fee;


Present a passport or other travel document valid for at least six months beyond the holder's period of stay in the United States with at least one blank page - the six-month requirement does not apply to United Kingdom passports;

Provide one photograph which meet State Department regulations;
and present evidence of

sufficient funds to cover all expenses while in the United States; and

evidence to show that the applicant has a residence abroad to which he/she intends to return at the end of the stay in the United States. This is generally established by evidence of family, professional, property, employment or other ties and commitments to some country other than the United States sufficient to cause the applicant to return there at the conclusion of his/her stay.


Issuance fees
Nationals of certain countries are required to pay an issuance fee in order for an approved visa to be issued. No fee is charged for the issuance of a C visa to a British citizen passport holder.


Additional processing requirements and information for the following:
males aged 16 to 45
nationals of North Korea, Cuba, Iran, Libya, Syria & Sudan
nationals of China, Northern Cyprus, Russia, Somalia & Vietnam
applicants who have a criminal conviction, are HIV positive, have a medical ineligibility, have been denied entry into or deported from the United States
temporary residents of the United Kingdom

What do I do next?
Applicants aged 14 to 79 are required to schedule an appointment for an interview.

Applicants under the age of 14 and those 80 and over may be eligible to apply for a visa by mail.

Important Notice: Visa applications are subject to a greater degree of scrutiny than in the past which means that in some instances visa applications are taking longer to process to conclusion than has been customary. You will be advised at the time of the interview if your application requires additional processing.

Reminder: We always recommend that individuals apply for visas well in advance of their proposed date of travel. No assurances regarding the issuance of visas can be given in advance. Therefore, final travel plans or the purchase of non refundable ticket should not be made until a visa has been issued and you are in receipt of the passport

[Susie]

Annie,

Just noticed there is a visa application fee, see above, but not visa issuance fee

[Susie]

Hi Annie,

I am sure the attorney I spoke to about your case, would be willing to speak with you free of charge. He is a member of aila and a member of the Florida Bar Assn. He has been a practising lawyer for over 30 years so can only hope and assume he is correct in his advise to you and appears to be clarified by the embassy website as she cannot travel without a visa having been denied entry to the usa


But, we all know that even if we get a visa issued this does not guarntee admission into the usa as the final determination rests soley with the POE immigration officers, that is very worrying, what a mess ?


If you have not heard from the reporter yet, might be a good idea to call him and update, maybe he can call the press office of the American embassy in London. What about calling Sir David Mannings office in Miami?


Can you update any news here, as soon as you hear from Martinez's wife or others

[v2002]

Hi,

Just trawled through loads of stuff and ended up back on the London Embassy Website. Yes indeedy, there is such a Visa and basically it says if you are not eligible to transit the United States under the VWP (which my daughter in law cannot) or are not a national of a country where visa requirements are waived, you will be required to apply for a transit (C-1) Visa before travelling.

Love Anniexxx
Annie Obviously
You missed the other part of the information on website that says .....

http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new/visa/niv/transit.html

Additional processing requirements and information for the following:
* males ......... 45
* nationals ................... Sudan
* nationals ....................................... Vietnam
* applicants ................... conviction, are HIV positive,
have a medical ineligibility,.................................... ...............................
__________________________________________________ ____
have been denied entry into or deported from the United States
__________________________________________________ ___
When you click on blue text between the lines it takes you to this further Information.....
http://www.usembassy.org.uk/cons_new/visa/niv/add_refused.html
Additional Administrative Processing : Denied Entry into the United States, Deported, or Overstayed on a Prior Visit

Denied entry

In the case of a traveler who has been denied entry into the United States by a Customs and Border Protection (CBP) officer, he/she should delay applying for a visa until a copy of the report of the incident is received by the Embassy or Consulate from CBP. Such reports routinely eight weeks from the date of denial of entry to arrive at this office.

Deportation

In the case of a deportation, the individual may be prohibited from reapplying for a visa depending on the circumstances for up to ten years. In certain cases a waiver of this ineligibility may be available.

Overstays

If you have overstayed on the Visa Waiver program (VWP) or violated the terms of a previously issued U.S. visa, you will be refused entry to the United States unless you apply for a visa with full details of your overstay prior to subsequent entry. Violating the terms of the Visa Waiver Program or previously issued U.S. visa can render an individual ineligible for a visa and a waiver of this ineligibility may be required.

Applying for the visa

When applying for a visa you are required to submit with your application the following additional documents:

* A completed VCU1 form (PDF 58Kb)
* A copy of the incident report if you were given a copy by the CBP officer when denied entry into the United States
* A copy of removal proceedings or any documentation relating to your deportation/removal.


What if I'm found ineligible for a visa ?


If the applicant is found ineligible for a visa, he/she will be advised whether or not a waiver of ineligibility is available from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

Please note:The application will take approximately 14 - 16 weeks to process, therefore, applicants should apply for visas well before the anticipated date of travel. The processing times quoted are approximate and cannot be guaranteed. It is important that you keep this in mind when applying for the visa. It will not be possible to expedite a case simply because an applicant has not allowed sufficient time for the application to be processed.

Reminder: No assurances regarding the issuance of visas can be given in advance. Therefore, final travel plans or the purchase of nonrefundable tickets should not be made until a visa has been issued.
_________________
I find this line VERY INTERESTING......
If the applicant is found ineligible for a visa, he/she will be advised whether or not a waiver of ineligibility is available from the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). Remember I told you to contact DHS?
Please CONTACT DHS and Plead your DIL's case and get a waiver for her....
Here is the link....
http://www.dhs.gov/index.shtm

The contact phone number is ....
Operator number 202-282-8000
Mailing address..
U.S.Department of Homeland Security
Washington D.C. 20528

Best of luck annie.... Love xxxxxxxxxxxx

[Bayfield]

Unlike say Heathrow you can not stay airside in the US whilst travelling through. You have to go through Immigration.

The C and D Visa's are for people who probably would not qualify for a Visitors Visa, ships crews etc but can pass the muster for a more limited variant.

Not sure of the history, but somebody with a ban can apply for a waiver I 192 attached to a B Visa. Best to give it a few years and be prepared to show substantial ties. Seems to be given relatively freely to Canadians and Europeans.

I have a friend in the US, effectively livng here as a visitor, but has a back up plan as the next entry is always in doubt. In this case a Sister would fly out pack up and/or sell. Just a risk you run.

[anniefromessex]

Hi V,

Am getting ready to go out but will take another look at your post when I get back in. In the scheme of things my family weren't actually deported, they were denied entry and I think there is a big difference. On your post you quote that if you are denied entry then you should delay re-applying for 8 weeks or so until a report is received. My family have waited 13 months to re-apply!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway will take another look later as I can't take it all in at the moment but will def contact DHS next week. Have also faxed Caulfield at the Embassy in London today so will look forward to his reply with bated breath, ha ha!!!

Thanks sweetie.

Love Anniexxx

[Sharon]

What I cannot understand is your daughter went for a visa and denied, so why did they not advise her of the correct visa to apply for or a waiver of some sort or what she is supposed to do?

[Dustin]

What I cannot understand is your daughter went for a visa and denied, so why did they not advise her of the correct visa to apply for or a waiver of some sort or what she is supposed to do?

Again info is great when it is provided!

Dustin

[v2002]

Annie it all boils down to applicable under all those situations .. I have been researching the information you had given me....I think your DIl mistyped or misread you the numbers they have to be denail under 211(a) as there is no denail code under-7A1I ,,,, please ask her to check the stamp on passports again .. and what code have the officer applied now? if you could provide me with that.Also I would like to know why did the VA not give visa to your grandchild? as I believe she was also one of the applicant and I am sure her paperwork was done too .. did those idiots stamp denail on her passport too ?
I am looking into the name of right person for you may be have it by tuesday
**Another possibility is to have your DIL talk to an attorney in UK and file for visa again and make sure the attorney is present too.
.. Best of luck
love xxxxxxxxxxx
Hi V,

Am getting ready to go out but will take another look at your post when I get back in. In the scheme of things my family weren't actually deported, they were denied entry and I think there is a big difference. On your post you quote that if you are denied entry then you should delay re-applying for 8 weeks or so until a report is received. My family have waited 13 months to re-apply!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway will take another look later as I can't take it all in at the moment but will def contact DHS next week. Have also faxed Caulfield at the Embassy in London today so will look forward to his reply with bated breath, ha ha!!!

Thanks sweetie.

Love Anniexxx

[Bayfield]

What I cannot understand is your daughter went for a visa and denied, so why did they not advise her of the correct visa to apply for or a waiver of some sort or what she is supposed to do?

Assuming she was refused admission under the VWP, then the B Visa would be the other Visitor option.

Usually you are allowed to withdraw rather than being deported, so unlikley that this is a waiver situation.

It may be that there is just not a correct visa that she can apply for, and get.

[Bayfield]

Annie it all boils down to applicable under all those situations .. I have been researching the information you had given me....I think your DIl mistyped or misread you the numbers they have to be denail under 211(a) as there is no denail code under-7A1I ,,,, please ask her to check the stamp on passports again .. and what code have the officer applied now? if you could provide me with that.Also I would like to know why did the VA not give visa to your grandchild? as I believe she was also one of the applicant and I am sure her paperwork was done too .. did those idiots stamp denail on her passport too ?
I am looking into the name of right person for you may be have it by tuesday
**Another possibility is to have your DIL talk to an attorney in UK and file for visa again and make sure the attorney is present too.
.. Best of luck
love xxxxxxxxxxx


INA §212(a)(7)(A)(i)

Usual for those who have abused the VWP in the eyes of the POE.

If the grandchildren were also given this stamp, then they would also need to apply for a B Visa.

They should be assesed individually.

Not sure what a Lawyer could do, apart from charge, never heard of somebody using one for a B. Not as if they give you very long to make your case - 30 seconds and next.

The 'usual' work around would be to apply for a visa that allows dual or immigrant intent.

[Munish]

Hi Bayfield, the B visa was denied already, so the issue is whether the C visa is a way round it.

I have to be honest I am inclined to agree with V2002. I can't see how the embassy would give any type of visa after already having just rejected another. They would probably just interpret it as an attempt to enter the country for permanent stay having so recently applied for the B.

They've already shown no common sense so can't see what's going to change now. Regardless, whatever happens with this C visa good luck.

[Sharon]

this is what sucks about the system even if we apply and get a visa approved, there no saying we would get into the us. The point is she was at the embassy and was asking how or what she could do to turn the situation round, no advise was given except move on or security will move you on, disgusting! and god knows how much it cost for that advise either:confused:

[Bayfield]

Both the B and C Visa requires non immigrant intent, so if that is the issue then C would not work.

If Immigrant Intent is the issue and the only issue, then a Visa that did allow Immigrant intent would be OK.

Most people do not qualify for such a Visa.

It is certainly true that the US Civil Service has a less helpful attitude, probably why there are so many lawyers. But in this case I have no idea what could have been said.

And quite true that no Visa guarantees entry, but a newly issued B should work when the interview addressed the particular issue.

I was turned down for a B, looking back I can not really blame them, and there was no other visa type I could have then applied for.

[anniefromessex]

There is absolutely no immigrant intent, believe you me!! Only want to come in and pack up furniture to ship it back to England. I am going to get in touch with DHS as V suggested and see if there is any way round this. If not then at least we will have tried and we can do no more.

Love Anniexxx

[Munish]

Good luck with that and hope they use sensible judgment.

[anniefromessex]

Thanks Mun,

Surely there is someone in this country who has common sense, compassion and humanity - yet to find him/her, if I do I will shout it from the rooftops!! If not will just come home with my tail between my legs and take up knitting.

Love Anniexxx

[Bayfield]

There is absolutely no immigrant intent, believe you me!! Only want to come in and pack up furniture to ship it back to England. I am going to get in touch with DHS as V suggested and see if there is any way round this. If not then at least we will have tried and we can do no more.

Love Anniexxx

I had no immigrant intent either, just wanted to go for 4 months.

But somebody who is not an OAP is going to have a hard job I found out later.

Not sure who you would contact at DNS or what would happen. As far as I know Visa issuance is a Consulate matter and no appeal.

[byjove]

Anni! Did your DIL get in?? I have been away from site for a while and have been trawling through trying to find if she made it or not!

I do hope she did!

[anniefromessex]

Hi Byjove,

She didn't unfortunately, she was turned down and as you can imagine we have been devastated by it all. The woman at the Embassy was a complete bitch and made my granddaughter cry - I could go on and on, but it has been documented on here already so don't want to bore everybody with it again.

I am trying all avenues to get her over before we go back for good, we hope to leave sometime in September. To be honest with you I think Jan just wants closure, after all we all left her's on the Wednesday morning to travel to the Bahamas, they were denied entry on the Friday and she hasn't seen her home since (over 13 months ago now) and I can see how hard that would be for anyone. At least when we go we will have had a chance to say goodbye. I know I am going to find it hard to leave this country cos I do love it here, and don't relish the thought of living in England again but hey, I will get used to it and it will become a distant memory.

Whats going on with you, I just said to Dee and Sheila the other day that I haven't seen you posting on here lately. Hope all is well with you, let me know.

Love Anniexxx

[byjove]

Oh! Annie! I am sooo sorry, I though she had the ok to travel on the 21st, I have been thinking of you and your DIL and wondered Is this the day she got back? I am soo disappointed for you and for her, I cant believe it!

Me! I am having loads of tests done, found a lump in between my collar bone and neck, whatever it is is in the lymph glands, just got to find out what! Been 8 weeks now, and expat's was a huge distraction for a while but the "what if's" are starting to creep in. Blood tests, cat scan's the lot. I am sure everything will be ok, and its just an infection somewhere, but ta for thinking of me!xxx

[Susie]

I am so sorry to hear your situation byjove hopefully everything will work out fine

Hi Annie

A few of us went to downtown Disney today got some signatures but then the heavens opened, so got rained out. Please call me if you get any news from Mulford , John Newstreet or Martinez wife. Back to hospital with Ashley tomorrow morning but will be home in the evening if you need me

[kirtida8]

:hug: I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you Byjove, hope you do find that it is just an infection, or blockage of one of the lymph glands thats causing the lump.:hug:

[byjove]

Cheers guys, I'm sure it will all be fine! Think positive!!!

[DEE F]

Cheers guys, I'm sure it will all be fine! Think positive!!!Hi Byjove,thats the spirit girl,my daughter went through all of the anguish you are going through now,but everything turned out ok in the end,PMA you cant beat it,will be thinking of you,take care.

Love Dee xxxxxxxxx

[byjove]

Annie.......... which thread is it posted under? I would like to read it! I am absolutely floored, I thought it was a done deal to be able to come over and pack up!

I wonder if she could suggest a bond or something to ensure her return to the UK! And after all the stuff they put her through, why on earth would they think she would want to stay anyway!?

[v2002]

Annie I dont think its not doable...
Here are more option to already given ......
Make a INFOPASS at your local immigration center and talk to an immigration officer he will tell you what to do to get your DIL in.Keep your cool and if possible take Ted along.

2nd option reach out this office ASAP and talk to the boss here.... for humanitarian parole....
http://www.ice.gov/about/internationalaffairs/contact.htm

Julie Myers is the Assit.secratary at W-DC She is next to Department Secretary: Michael Chertoff

Just in case URL dont open ......
Print
About Us
Office Of International Affairs
*
Regular Mail:
Department of Homeland Security - ICE
Office of International Affairs
425 I Street, NW
ATTN: 800 North Capitol, Third Floor
Washington, DC 20536
Main Number: 202-732-0350
Immigration Services
Parole & Humanitarian Assistance Branch - Miami, Florida
Mailing Address:
Department of Homeland Security - ICE
International Affairs Office/PHAB
51 SW First Avenue, Room, 424
Miami, FL 33130

Julie L. Myers
Assistant Secretary

John P. Clark
Deputy Assistant Secretary for Operations

Theresa Bertucci
Deputy Assistant Secretary for Management

Nick Smith
Chief of Staff
good luck and I am still working on other options too.
love xxxxxxxx
Thanks Mun,

Surely there is someone in this country who has common sense, compassion and humanity - yet to find him/her, if I do I will shout it from the rooftops!! If not will just come home with my tail between my legs and take up knitting.

Love Anniexxx

[Bayfield]

Humanitarian Parole.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=b04596981298d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=48819c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD

I did look back on Annie's posts but could not work out the full story, but there are lots of posts.

I know they want to come to pack up, but I think it would need to be a lot more than that.

Parole is an extraordinary measure, sparingly used to bring an otherwise inadmissible alien into the United States for a temporary period of time due to a very compelling emergency.

A bit off topic, but looks like we will need to move, one of our neighbours has their house FSBO, but I know they are not in a rush. All the others have used realtors. Wondering what to do, our market is flat, but houses priced to sell do move. Is it different in Florida? So much varies by State.

[Susie]

Humanitarian Parole.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.5af9bb95919f35e66f614176543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=b04596981298d010VgnVCM10000048f3d6a1RCR D&vgnextchannel=48819c7755cb9010VgnVCM10000045f3d6a1 RCRD

I did look back on Annie's posts but could not work out the full story, but there are lots of posts.

I know they want to come to pack up, but I think it would need to be a lot more than that.

Parole is an extraordinary measure, sparingly used to bring an otherwise inadmissible alien into the United States for a temporary period of time due to a very compelling emergency.

A bit off topic, but looks like we will need to move, one of our neighbours has their house FSBO, but I know they are not in a rush. All the others have used realtors. Wondering what to do, our market is flat, but houses priced to sell do move. Is it different in Florida? So much varies by State.

Hi

Thanks for sharing

I do know from personal experience that this is very rarely given and would be denied if they apply for it due to previous suspected immigrant intent as their B visa was denied for this reason.


It costs about $200 to apply and processing is by the Dept of state takes approx 90 days, (although I do not beileve that to be accurate)

My son was denied a B visa to come and help with probate and find a final resting place for my husbands remains as he had previously had an immigrant visa in process, and an L 1 visa which was approved and subsequently denied becasue his case got lost.

[byjove]

Hi Bayfield,

Did I miss your introduce yourself???? I appologize if I did, been off for a while.

I think a little detail about you, would be very useful, as you have some knowledge on things, do you have a legal background, your experiences, etc, etc.......

Its just a little about yourself would help "bond"

Cheers

[Bayfield]

Did put a bit down on another thread.

I was refused a B Visa some years back, lack of knowledge on my part.

There was a piece in the local paper a year or so ago about a woman that otained Humanitarian Parole, really weird case. She was 'sponsored' by a local town.

[byjove]

So.... Where are you now? Did youget over?

[Bayfield]

I had not been turned away, so could still use the VWP.

Later came over on a K, and now a PR. But with the VWP you need to tick the box that says refused a visa, real pain.

[byjove]

yup! REad what happened to a person in JFK when they didnt tick that box!

[anniefromessex]

Bayfield, don't want to seem less than understanding with regard to what you have probably quite rightly said - but pray tell me and I know this is not your fault or anything - but just how do they think our family are meant to get their personal belongings back to England?!!! How much more should you need to get back into this country, whether they have done wrong in the eyes of the law or not, their furniture and personal possessions are here (they aint going to disappear overnight just because we click our fingers). The same with Susie and her son, Dee and her daughter, although that is not for me to post, just how the hell are they meant to achieve closure!!! Whatever has happened has happened, even criminals gain parole - they need to get the burr down from their ar.. and do something right for a change!!! I am sure we would all have a lot more respect for them and for the ones remaining, work even harder than they do now.

Sorry, burr up my ar.. at the moment!!!

Love Anniexxx

[Bayfield]

I do not know the full story, I have seen a couple of posts recently that suggests that it has something to do with a dodgy visa consultant (are there any other type?) and unsuccesful E2 applications.

I only started commenting because of my own experiances, I did ask at the POE how I avoided Secondary, basically told I would be visiting Secondary for the rest of my life. All because of one failed B applicaton.

I know nothing is imposible, I have personally come across some people who seem to break all the rules, but being realistic the chances of them getting a B Visa or anything else which does not allow immigrant intent are very small, no harm in trying, but not something I would want to rely on.

Trying to think how to say this but the one thing I do know is that US Immigration do not care, they have a set of rules mandated by Congress, and thats about it.

I was annoyed, very annoyed when it happened to me, then I became annoyed with myself for not having done some research.

I do not mean to cause offence, but they have a holiday home in the US?
And they have not been there for a year? Just wondering what the value of the items vs cost of shipping would be. I have just moved a load of personal items across 3 States, the bigger items were just not worth the cost so we sold or gave away.

Perhaps they could sell the house furnshed, my neighbour did that, not intentional, but may be more practical in Florida.

When my wife moved from UK to US she did have a small container, no idea of cost, her company paid for it. The moving company did everything.

PS I was brought up in Essex, the first holiday I can remember was in Clacton - Butlins.

[peter gold]

Bayfiled I went to Ilford CHS and left in 1968

[Bayfield]

Small world, Hornchurch.

Both of course were Essex, I can remember just when Romford had a market.

I had friends in Ilford, used to be in the area quite a bit in the early 70's.

Changed a lot since then.

[peter gold]

My sister lived in Elm Park so know Hornchurch well.
Wheer are you now and are you coming to live in the US , if so where

[Bayfield]

Bayfield.....

Not very original.

Nearly moved San Fran, but I can not say I really miss not going there, prefer the mountains.

But apparently quite a few Californians around, the term seems used with a similar derision as Texans.

[peter gold]

Where abouts is Bayfield in California

[Bayfield]

Colorado, not California.

But just talked with a Californian who relocated here, they are everywhere.

Many seem to stay a year or so and then go back, winter and summer are very different.

PS I was nearer Emerson Park..

[peter gold]

I have a good Englsih friend specialzes in mortgages and she is located just outside Denver
Too cold for me in the winter.

[anniefromessex]

Hi Guys,

I think you already know Peter that I come from Brentwood in Essex, my cousin actually lives in Elm Park - off of Farm Way - really looking forward to seeing it again, ha ha!! Actually, Hornchurch now looks like a dump and the traffic, well!!!!

Bayfield, regarding your earlier post re my family's "holiday home" - it wasn't a holiday home it was their home and as such they have all their personal possessions, paperwork, good furniture, kids toys, everything in that home so is not a case of just packing up a few things its their life!!!!! They have purchased stuff back in England to tied them over until they can get their real stuff back, so no go regarding your take on the situation, plus the fact we are leaving and taking our home back so it makes sense to get a container between us, as we did when we came over and if the idiots in Immigration cannot understand that, then shame on them - they are as thick as I always thought they were!!! In short we were scammed by one of their own, but he still walks the streets whereas we have been to hell and back because there is no come back on these people. Enough said.

Annie

[Bayfield]

My parents are still in Hornchurch.

Too old to move, too many medical issues anyway to come to the US.

Not somewhere I have ever wanted to return to, but we may have no choice.

Sorry for the confusion, so they came over on an E2, that folded due to bad advise, tried to come back in on the VWP to tidy up affairs, got bounced as their home was in the US, tried the B, but were bounced for the same reason.

I am sorry, I really can not think of anything that could be done. Catch 22.

[peter gold]

Annie
I am so sorry for what has happened to your family, and you being driven back to somewhere you really don't want to be. Think positively you will be reunited with family, but as someone wrote on here recently the children are only on loan to you.
If you need any help or advice whilst packing up please ask on here as I am sure we will all be willing to assist.

[kirtida8]

You can count on me to help if needed Annie

[byjove]

Hey Annie, give the word and we will be there to help! :)

[DEE F]

Dont bother asking me Annie you know it will be a no:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D just kidding sweetie anything I can do you only have to holler,and I may just tuck myself away in the crate ,then we can both nip round to Muns for a quick drag behind the bike sheds:D :D Take care.


Love Dee xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Bayfield]

A son is a son until he gets him a wife.

A daughter is a daughter for the rest of her life.

I must go, also applies to step daughters and sons.....

[DEE F]

Mmmmmmm very profound Bayfield !!!!!!!!

Dee x

[anniefromessex]

Dee, if only you could!!!! Thanks everyone for your offers of help. I am so astounded at the moment because the first person who looked at Daniels house bought it!!!!!! We knew we only had to get someone in there, he has over half an acre of land, is unoverlooked, plenty of room between the houses and generally is what Florida USED to be!!! The contract is for closing on 31st July. Daniel is ecstatic, but Jan is all over the place. She just wanted closure and to see her house one last time, but they wont give her that. I am all over the place too, I can't deal with their inhumanity and it is tearing me apart. I can't say anymore because I am crying at the moment so please forgive me but ......

Love Annniexxxx

[DEE F]

Have just emailed you Annie,pleae keep your chin up,it will get better,I am thinking of you,take care.

Loads of love and hugs for you and Ted.

Dee xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[Susie]

Annie

Just call me if I can help, keep your chin up, this is all so , so very sad and should not come to this I am gutted for you

Bear in mind what I suggested to you on the phone, you never know, may just be worth doing

[Munish]

Be strong Annie. You're going home to be with your family. Far more important! It's the right thing to do so focus on the fact you're a decent human being with your priorities in order unlike many today.

[kirtida8]

As my favourite saying is "when one door closes another one opens" - Annie I truly believe that everything will be OK for you. You will be back with the family you love, and it is great news that the house is sold - at least it helps to bring some closure. It is still not fair that you DIL is not able to come over and pack up her own belongings and say goodbye to what was her home - but maybe it will work out for the best in the long run? Again, the offer of help is there if you need it.:hug: