View Full Version : Would like to live in Kiev
ytvette
08-21-2006, 04:44 PM
How difficult would it be for me to live and work in Kiev, Ukraine? I don't speak Russian but I do know that there are Americans living there. Can anyone answer this for me? Thanks!
Susie
08-24-2006, 07:29 AM
Hi Ytvette
Sorry I do not have any idea but suggest doing a search for their embassy's web site and do a search
We are mainly aimed and immigration to the USA but I will see if I can find some sort of link for you and post
JulieC
08-24-2006, 03:48 PM
I googled this for her last night Susie and posted the link and then my post disappeared. You need to go to the website of the Ukraine embassy in Washington and then go to visa services, it is all there. You seem to need a job for employment visas which may be hard with no Russian. There are other bases for visas. They said it helped if you had Ukranian connections say descent.
Kriz1
08-24-2006, 04:47 PM
It would be an idea to learn Russian...I'm one for only moving to a country if you speak the lingo...
You'll miss out on so much just hanging around with other Americans...you don't need to be that good at it...just enough to be friendly....and it'll make it easier to find work...
Kriz1
08-24-2006, 04:49 PM
http://learningrussian.com/
ytvette
08-25-2006, 02:05 AM
Thank you Kriz, Julie and Susie! I will check out the consulate's website in DC. I realize it will be difficult without learning any Russian. But I'm good at foreign languages. I think I could pick it up pretty quickly. By the way, I'm a male. LOL!
JulieC
08-25-2006, 05:41 PM
Sorry I think we all read Yvette!! Another option of course if you are single would be to find a nice Ukranian girl!
chris
08-25-2006, 07:00 PM
There's always good old Natasha!!!
deport
12-15-2007, 03:12 PM
P.S. They speak UKRAINIAN in Ukraine.
InnVic
12-15-2007, 03:16 PM
ok I have to ask the obvious. Why Ukraine?
deport
12-16-2007, 01:57 PM
Amazing, how people want to move somewhere without even knowing
what language is spoken there!
InnVic
12-16-2007, 02:02 PM
This is an old post anyway....so probably in the Ukraine already ...or married to a nice Scouse girl and living in the Wirral!
Kriz1
12-16-2007, 02:49 PM
Anyone who know the Ukraine would know Russian is used there a lot...and maybe more useful to know than Ukrainian..thinking about it also easier to get lessons while living somewhere else...
InnVic
12-16-2007, 03:01 PM
Spasibo Kriz :-)
Kriz1
12-16-2007, 03:48 PM
Yo are most welcome....:)
deport
12-16-2007, 04:14 PM
Anyone who know the Ukraine would know Russian is used there a lot...and maybe more useful to know than Ukrainian..thinking about it also easier to get lessons while living somewhere else...
not anymore... all papers are on Ukrainian, notaries and lawyes can use no other language for the legal papers.... If he meant for chat on the streets - yes, he could use it... For finding a JOB and in KIEV with Russian language - I do not know. If it was Eastern part, it might have happened, perhaps, somehow... Russian speaking job in Kiev? I do not think so.
Kriz1
12-16-2007, 04:31 PM
not anymore... all papers are on Ukrainian, notaries and lawyes can use no other language for the legal papers.... If he meant for chat on the streets - yes, he could use it... For finding a JOB and in KIEV with Russian language - I do not know. If it was Eastern part, it might have happened, perhaps, somehow... Russian speaking job in Kiev? I do not think so.
Russian is still up there for business ...and like I said easier to learn in the USA or the UK...you can pick up Ukrainian easy enough once you know its where you want to live but saying that Ukrainian is easier to learn than Russian.. .....I had a lot of Russian and Ukrainian workers around my place in the summer..working in Burger King...my son brings them home...the Ukrainians use both languages ...
deport
12-16-2007, 04:41 PM
they do. On the streets. But who will hire a person who won't be
able to do some needed official paper or submit a monthly report?
Granted, they are mixed, and people in his work place will chat up
both, but when it comes to work it won't do. What could he been
doing with Russian language only, what job?
Kriz1
12-16-2007, 04:42 PM
http://www.tryukraine.com/info/languages.shtml
Found this if the OP is still interested...
Its a bit like living in Russia or the Ukraine here in the summer...not only are they the main languages used by the temp workers here at that time...but the shelves in the local supermarkets are also mostly empty...:)
deport
12-16-2007, 04:44 PM
do not know about the shelves, but someone should hint to him, that
unless he is going to pave the roads or to dig gutters, Russian
won't do. And, even then they won't hire him - because why would
they need someone who can hardly understand the language and the
commands given, when there are thousands of unemployed people who do?
Kriz1
12-16-2007, 04:48 PM
Seeing as most people in the country would like to use English more anyway...(which is way so many come here all summer)..... learning Russian and translating into English should give someone a chance at a fair job...
Lets be honest...if you can learn Russian good enough...your Ukrainian will get good enough over time ...I mean why would you move there just to work in a supermarket...I would think you'd be looking for a job in IT or somesuch...so Russian...:)
deport
12-16-2007, 04:50 PM
It's like asking to relocate to France with English only. Sure, you
will find plenty of people speaking it, but no one will employ you.
Though I knew people who lived and worked in France for years, and
spoke English only! But they were exceptions, and mostly employed by
large Americans corporations, and experts in their fields. So, they
created a special "Americanised" atmosphere for them.
By the way, they make even foreign students in the university to
study Ukrainian. You can see Arabs and African in their picturesque clothes
chatting in Ukrainian in supermarkets and metro. This guy info is
very outdated.
deport
12-16-2007, 04:52 PM
summer guide? Yes, he might do. I didn't think about this.
Susie
12-17-2007, 05:42 AM
This is an old post anyway....so probably in the Ukraine already ...or married to a nice Scouse girl and living in the Wirral!
thought the Wirral was in Wales ?
InnVic
12-17-2007, 02:49 PM
thought the Wirral was in Wales ?
http://www.visitwirral.com/site/out-and-about/interactive-map
Just as well you now live in Florida! :rofl:
Kriz1
12-17-2007, 02:59 PM
thought the Wirral was in Wales ?
And the Falkland Isles are off the coast of Scotland Sue.........:p :p
You are becoming too American....:rofl:
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