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09-04-2006, 02:29 PM

Kriz1

09-04-2006, 03:06 PM

You can't retire in the US mate...not even if you have the right kind of visa...you work till you drop and then some........:D

JulieC

09-04-2006, 03:38 PM

Thus is posted in the European section, Kriz, but there arnt many of us on here not in the US!

floridapete

09-04-2006, 04:13 PM

I'm a researcher from a brand new channel Overseas Property TV (Sky Channel 287) and I am looking for people to take part in a new show called Retire Abroad.

The show is presented by Peter Purves and Diana Moran and guests who are thinking about spending their golden years in the sun can ask experts about all aspects of moving abroad from tax issues to the best social events in the area!

If you've always fancied a life in the sun but don't know about all the practicalities - let us help!

If you're interested please contact Gurinder at: gurinder.h@rapidbroadcast.org

I just replied to him/her:

Hello, I have just seen your posting on the ExPatsVoice.org website regarding this upcoming programme on retirement abroad.

I just wanted to warn you NOT to include the USA in your prgramme as there is NO VISA PROVISION FOR RETIREES TO THE USA !

To include any aspect or mention of the USA (incl. Florida) within your prgramme would simply MISLEAD YOUR VIEWERS into a mistaken belief that there is any possibility of retiring to the USA full time - THERE IS NOT ! THERE IS NO RETIREMENT VISA !

There is not even the possibility in law of buying a US. business to qualify for a visa for your retirement in the USA because, as soon as you sell the qualifying business to really retire the VISA IS INVALID AND YOU MUST VACATE THE USA !

So PLEASE do NOT include the USA in your programme.

The best that any non-US citizen can hope for is to spend their semi-retirement 'wintering' in the sunshine of Florida as a 'snowbird' for up to (and not exceeding) 6 months of each year. Even this will need application for a B2 visa - with a mandatory attendance at the US Embassy in London for a personal interview !

Let's face it - the Yanks don't want thousands of us aging Brits messing up their nice country ! :)

Call me if you need any more information on this subject.

Peter Stanhope.

President.

Florida Brits Group.

York U.K.

Tel 01904 471800.

See: http://www.floridabritsrealty.com/fbr-wintering.html

floridapete

09-04-2006, 05:04 PM

Just received this reply:

"Hi Peter,

Thanks for this. I am actually concentrating on European destinations,
specifically ones in the EU for the programme and did put the posting in
the Europe section. However, it has had a couple of responses already
saying that most on the site are in America. No problem, I just thought
I might get a response on the off chance of someone looking on the site
thinking of going to Europe.

Thanks,
Gurinder."

Ron

09-04-2006, 05:05 PM

Hi Guys

Well you can retire in the USA if you come to the USA on L visa, the get green card or become a USC

If you marry a USC you can retire also

He has offered help, so lets contact him and ask if he can help with our situations and expats voice

He could well be interested in doing a feature about us all

Susie

09-04-2006, 05:19 PM

mark

09-04-2006, 09:20 PM

Hello Rapid Radio

Yes, please try to help our cause if you can

JulieC

09-04-2006, 10:49 PM

Hope you dont mind but I have posted this on another forum where it is more likely to get exposure to people thinking of moving to Europe.

JulieC

09-04-2006, 10:49 PM

Hope you dont mind put I have posted this on another forum where it is more likely to get exposure to people living in or thinking of moving to Europe.

Susie

09-04-2006, 10:55 PM

Hi Julie

That is fine by me

Any chance of a mention for expats voice? You never know some may be in the other forum who are wanabe expats in the USA

Bobby

09-04-2006, 11:25 PM

I just replied to him/her:

Hello, I have just seen your posting on the ExPatsVoice.org website regarding this upcoming programme on retirement abroad.

I just wanted to warn you NOT to include the USA in your prgramme as there is NO VISA PROVISION FOR RETIREES TO THE USA !

To include any aspect or mention of the USA (incl. Florida) within your prgramme would simply MISLEAD YOUR VIEWERS into a mistaken belief that there is any possibility of retiring to the USA full time - THERE IS NOT ! THERE IS NO RETIREMENT VISA !

There is not even the possibility in law of buying a US. business to qualify for a visa for your retirement in the USA because, as soon as you sell the qualifying business to really retire the VISA IS INVALID AND YOU MUST VACATE THE USA !

So PLEASE do NOT include the USA in your programme.

The best that any non-US citizen can hope for is to spend their semi-retirement 'wintering' in the sunshine of Florida as a 'snowbird' for up to (and not exceeding) 6 months of each year. Even this will need application for a B2 visa - with a mandatory attendance at the US Embassy in London for a personal interview !

Let's face it - the Yanks don't want thousands of us aging Brits messing up their nice country ! :)

Call me if you need any more information on this subject.

Peter Stanhope.

President.

Florida Brits Group.

York U.K.

Tel 01904 471800.

See: http://www.floridabritsrealty.com/fbr-wintering.html

Peter just who exactly are you to tell this friendly poster to the forum what he can and can't include in his programme or research??

Your arrogance beggars belief sometimes.

I'm so glad that you put your signature block at the bottom so that this guy doesn't think that you speak for one and all on here.

You CAN retire to the USA from the UK ...... YOU just didn't do it properly (obviously).

Get the chip off your shoulder about that and open your eyes to the possibilities open to other forum members who are now pursuing a life in the States. It's not all about what didn't work out for you.

Your postings can sometimes be well researched and interesting, but I'm sure that others reading some of the stuff are asking themselves.....why is a guy that's stuck in York, England, spending every day on a forum for ex-pats?? You don't even live in the US or own property here so please stop beating the brows of those of us that do.

Gurinder wasn't asking if there was a retirement visa. I'm sure he could care less.
Again to reiterate my point. It IS possible to retire to the US even if Mr Stanhope thinks it is not.

Bobby

Kriz1

09-04-2006, 11:33 PM

Thus is posted in the European section, Kriz, but there arnt many of us on here not in the US!

I was think more on the lines that if you live in the US you can't afford to retire anywhere....:eek:

floridapete

09-05-2006, 09:07 AM

Thanks Bobby, I always look forward to and appreciate your well-chosen words of comfort. :)

As to what I bring to this forum - you'd better ask Susie and others who know me better than you do.

Personal attacks will not endear you to other members on here. They are not necassery to make a point.

Bobby

09-05-2006, 04:58 PM

If you took it as a personal attack, you obviously don't know me either.

Just have a quick read over your post again ...."telling" someone what they can or can't use in their own programme. You're wrong about the possiblity of retirement in the US, please admit that for the benefit of proper information and guidance for the readers of the thread.

Also, I'm not the only one asking what some bloke stuck in York is doing "advising" all of us how to go ahead with our lives. What's your point caller?

You posted your views so vehemently, and also so wrongly. Expect to be called on it.

Bobby

Ron

09-06-2006, 03:18 AM

Hey guys

Quote Peter said

I just wanted to warn you NOT to include the USA in your prgramme as there is NO VISA PROVISION FOR RETIREES TO THE USA !

I think Peter was right to mention the above otherwise the reporter could well mislead people and that would never do

Sometimes the written word can be misunderstood and I think this has happen here

On the home page there is a section for people who may wish to move there so the reporter was only looking for leads.

Maybe Rapid radio may well be interested in our issues and help us in the future but not if we cannot be taken seriously

Peter was only warning the reproter not to mention

JulieC

09-06-2006, 01:04 PM

There is no visa provision for retirees to the US. You can come on another visa, work or family based, get a green card and then retire but that is different. To say you can retire to the US using those means is a play on words. You can get EB5 via investing $500,000 in a regional center and eventually hopefully get a green card, that is being mooted at these shows as a retirement visa but actually it is an entrepreneurs investment visa, being called a retirees visa only because you dont actually need to work. And we are yet to see how many of these will be successfully obtained. Yes you can retire in the US if you are lucky enough to get a green card by some other means but retiring to the US is something different. I think anyone who posts otherwise is misleading people.

Joanie

09-06-2006, 02:06 PM

I joined this forum as I am an ex-pat living here, but keep myself to myself and take in and learn a lot from what others post here. But on this occasion, I feel I have to reply as I totally agree with Bobby with regard to Florida Pete.

I also find him, at times, obnoxious and a bit of a "know it all". You lobviously lived here, (I may be wroung), but it wasn't for you and I appreciate that you can see both sides, but sometimes when I read your posts, on this and other forums I find myself thinking, who does he think he is?

You always come across as putting down all the ex pats who are here on E2 visas and yes, it is hard and an uncertain life, but surely that is our choice.

I do not mean to offend, and will probably never post again, but I just wanted this time, to say how I felt.

Ray10

09-06-2006, 10:22 PM

I do not mean to offend, and will probably never post again, but I just wanted this time, to say how I felt.
Thats because there is none or non-effective moderation here...
I suggest the owners put a experienced moderator to work ASAP...

Kriz1

09-06-2006, 10:46 PM

Sue would have to be very sure of the people she picked as mods..but they are needed...

I like to see peoples points of view...and I dislike posts being deleted unless they are very rude...or just digging at someone...

Ron

09-07-2006, 04:16 AM

Thats because there is none or non-effective moderation here...
I suggest the owners put a experienced moderator to work ASAP...

Hi

There is a committee meeting on 13th Sept

Any offers of help I am sure would be appreciated

Ray10

09-07-2006, 04:34 AM

Hi
There is a committee meeting on 13th Sept
Any offers of help I am sure would be appreciated
You don't need a committee ..you need a boss...

Preferably dictorial....

Susie

09-07-2006, 04:35 AM

Hi Folkes

I agree with Rays posting and there is a need for a few experienced moderators amongst other changes. This is why we are forming a committee to plan the way forward and assist in running this site.

The site is still very new and as such we are on a learning curve but will continue to strive for improvements asap

Please, please respect everyone forum rules, debates with differing opinions are fine no rude or personal atttacks on members are allowed.

We all like a good debate but be careful of typing in CAPITOL letters as this means you are shouting

I hope I can rely on everyone to give their support to ensure this site gets back on track and stays that way

As I said in a previous post

One person cannot do everything , but everyone can do a little something to help

Ray10

09-07-2006, 04:38 AM

Hi
One person cannot do everything , but everyone can do a little something to help
One boss can Susie .. you know my style ... no crap allowed ...and thats final ...

pegasus

09-14-2006, 07:06 PM

Susie,
Keep YOUR forum as it is,
there are times I totally disagree with persons and times I agree with them (like this time I am with Bobby). If I only see what the moderator agrees with then there is a good chance I and others will not participate.
To all out there...
If you cant take it don't give it.
say what you think but remember to use non offensive (swear) words, they are usually not needed to make a point anyway.
If you think someone is talking nonsense then say so, if someone makes a factual mistake then say so.
Keep the forum how it is, it is what leads to interesting and alive threads

but thats just my opinion
:) :) :)

B rgds

Neil

punky

09-14-2006, 09:07 PM

Personally, I think the OP is spam but as its been here this long and people have engaged it, it might as well stay.

Just to re-iterate what I said the other day... Can everyone please attack the post and not the poster? No matter the debate, there's never a need to get personal. Not only is it against the T&Cs, but it shows a lack of credibility for the attacker's post.

Pegasus: Its not about what the moderate does or doesn't agree with... Job #1 for any mod is to apply the T&Cs of the site, regardless of what's being discussed.

The mods here will always try and be as lax as possible to promote a friendly, sociable atmosphere (as has been a topic of discussion here late), but as the site gets busier, then its more important that the T&Cs get applied evenly and fairly. Its catch-22. We will always endeavor to maintain a happy balance.

Mods will NEVER stiffle legitmate, legal discussion, regardless of the topic. However, if it goes against the T&Cs they it has to be dealt with. As the owners of the site, any come back due to abuse or illegal posts and the buck rests with us. If anyone posted anything that was libellious, or racist, etc, then we, the owners of the forum are held accountable, sometimes even in preference to the actual poster.

As important as this discussion is, its off-topic so we should move back onto the original. If people would like to discuss this more, then i'll probably split it into its own thread as its more logical and sensical.

I would just like to add that this is Susie's first go at moderating so its a learning curve for her. She'll get better with experience.