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12-19-2007, 01:35 AM
Howls of protest at UK’s new visa rules
Sajeda Momin
Wednesday, December 19, 2007 *04:27 IST

LONDON: New visa rules for non-EU tourists planned by the British government have come in for protests as ‘racist’, ‘anti-poor’ and ‘unfair’.

For the first time in 35 years the government wants to halve the time that a tourist can stay in the UK from six to three months.

It also plans to bring in a bond system for overseas visitors who are coming to Britain to visit relatives and friends. While they have not stated the amount the government is proposing, media speculation suggests it will be about £1,000 per person or more.

“The government is trying to deter people to come for family visits. This is unfair,” said Habib Rehman, the chief executive of the Joint Council for the Welfare of Immigrants.

Campaigners called the proposals “unfair” on poorer families. The Conservatives attacked the plan as a “headline grabbing gimmick”.

The government defended the bond, which has led to a lot of criticism, saying it is “not for everyone – but where we think there’s a risk”.

Immigration groups however suggest it will definitely be used when issuing visas to visitors from the Indian subcontinent making it a racist move. EU visitors do not face visa restrictions.

“The visa authorities always consider people from India want to live here and not go back no matter how much better their lives may be back home,” said Tanuja Patel who is planning her daughters wedding for next summer.

“I would like my relatives to come from Surat for the marriage but I can’t afford to shell out so much money for the bonds,” she said.

The proposals are aimed, claims the government at those who deliberately overstay or work illegally in the UK. Liam Byrne, Immigration Minister defended the proposals arguing that they were nothing sinister and they were simply “updating the visa system which is 35 years out of date”.

Tourists going to the rest of EU may be offered a cut price and time-limited visa to visit the UK to encourage group travel, the consultation document says. The proposals are also considering special one-off visa category for sporting fixtures or cultural events.

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?newsid=1140222

Sharon
12-19-2007, 11:57 PM
i think a bond might be a good idea for anyone who has been denied entry to the us in the past. I am sure people would be willing to pay a bond and pick the check up when they depart the US, at least this would allow relatives to visit their close relatives

DEE F
12-20-2007, 12:36 AM
I would call that pretty racist myself,if they are aiming it mainly at the Indians,however if they put it into practice to include Everyone visiting the UK,then it might not be such a bad thing,and would perhaps deter would be immigrants from coming in to sponge off the state,and yes Sharon,I agree,it would help in the USA,FOR RELATIVES WHO OTHERWISE COULDNT COME IN,but I doubt if it will ever get put into practice,far to politically incorrect !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dee xx

peter gold
12-20-2007, 12:50 AM
Reading the proposal carefully it is aimed at ALL non EU countries. That is not racialist.
It cannot by law restrict the EU citizens right to travel.
Frankly I would like to see the bond introduced here for all not using the VWP.

Susie
12-20-2007, 03:45 AM
I understand that each country has to have immigration rules and protect its boarders.

This applies as much to the UK as anywhere else, but there has to be some common sense and compassion and if immigration control in any country believe your going to become an illegal then a large bond would seem a way to allow more people to be able to visit their loved ones and not be denied entry.

MRehan
01-22-2008, 10:16 AM
Dear Ms Momin,
we are Indo-German trade experts based in Munich, Germany. Last oct/Nov Angela Merkel went to India. A train "Science Express" will make stop in around 60 cities in India. The aim is to get Indian experts to Germany. Things get hard for getting visa for Germany for family members of these experts. So Experts without families are welcome!
If we want to work in Germany we have to adopt to German work culture and German language. On the other hand German experts working in India depend only on their "German English"
Quite often projects fail because of communcation problems like understanding Indian English (Hinglish).
As far I know Indians too adopt to regional languages and regional work culture: A Gujrati Business person adopts to local work culture and local language in Kolkatta. Just English would not help to win heart of local people.

Ther are around 8 million persons of foreign origin living in Germany. But you will not find one single person of foreign origin (Asian) in any DAX listed top Managment. There are very few woman in Top managment of any German company as well.
How is it in U.K?
Mohammad Rehan

Sharon
01-23-2008, 04:38 AM
Reading the proposal carefully it is aimed at ALL non EU countries. That is not racialist.
It cannot by law restrict the EU citizens right to travel.
Frankly I would like to see the bond introduced here for all not using the VWP.

good point