Renewel of Driving Licence

[lorraine]

Hi everyone now that we have our L1 renewal we need to re do our driving licence. Anyone any idea what you do. Can it be sent away? Or do you need an appointment? Thankyou kind regards Lorraine

[haytonmac]

Hi Lorraine not sure if this helps but have you tried myflorida.com and then click on floridian and work your way from there ,you may be able to it online.Hope it may help!

[kebab king]

Hi Lorraine

Andy made his appointment online, then went along with his passport, new I-94 and old licence.

Took about ten minutes.

Kristina

[lorraine]

Hi thanks Kristina and haytonmac I will see if I can book on line also. Kind regards Lorraine

[Susie]

Hi

You may need to call them if you are not a USC

Here is one 407 846 5232 or 407 846 5230 in Kissimmee open Tues to Friday 7am to 6 pm

[Bobby]

I went online to renew mine, (just to change address) and it wouldn't let me. It informed me that I had to attend DMV in person.

I took the relevant paperwork, and as Kristina says, it only takes 10 minutes. I went to the new offices at Partin Settlement in Kissimmee.
The system is now similar to most government procedures, where you take a number and wait to be called. The entrance is manned by 3 receptionists who allocate a number relevant to what you are there to do. If you get there between 8am and 9am, you only have a few minutes wait. Any later and you can be waiting in line.
For some reason they only issue one year, and mine had to be sent away (because of the date of my birthday, and the difference between my renewal date etc.) I still haven't got it back. They said 2 weeks. That was 23 Oct, so any time now, .... I hope!

Good Luck,

Bobby

[punky]

I definitely recommend an appointment, as they walk-in waits can be very long.

With an appointment, you normally get seen within a few minutes. Without one, you could be there 3 hours.

Also another tip, is to try and avoid mondays as its supposedly their busiest day (replacing misplaced licenses from the weekend, etc), and this is when the most problems with their system occurs.

[Susie]

I went online to renew mine, (just to change address) and it wouldn't let me. It informed me that I had to attend DMV in person.

I took the relevant paperwork, and as Kristina says, it only takes 10 minutes. I went to the new offices at Partin Settlement in Kissimmee.
The system is now similar to most government procedures, where you take a number and wait to be called. The entrance is manned by 3 receptionists who allocate a number relevant to what you are there to do. If you get there between 8am and 9am, you only have a few minutes wait. Any later and you can be waiting in line.
For some reason they only issue one year, and mine had to be sent away (because of the date of my birthday, and the difference between my renewal date etc.) I still haven't got it back. They said 2 weeks. That was 23 Oct, so any time now, .... I hope!

Good Luck,

Bobby


Hi Bobby

They will only normally give you a driving licence to the expiry date of visa or I 94 or in my case a notice of action

My L2 had expired and had a notice of action for my pending I 485 . The priorty date (time petition was taking) was 999 dyas. so that how long they gave me my renewal for.

Now I am Green card holder got renewal for 7 years. Another reason you have to go is you have an eye test each time so not sure how you can renew on line

If you come on visa waiver, the max they will give is 90 days, B visa max 60 days etc.,

[Bobby]

Hi Bobby

1. They will only normally give you a driving licence to the expiry date of visa or I 94 or in my case a notice of action



2. Another reason you have to go is you have an eye test each time so not sure how you can renew on line



1. My paperwork showed expiry in 2 years time, and they still only gave one year.

2. You are correct, to renew an outdated license you need to be in person, but you can replace a lost license or change an address online. Perhaps only for citizens or green card holders?
Bobby

[lorraine]

Thanks everyone I calling to make appt I thought we would get 2 year renewal as the visa for 2 years. Dont know why you got 1 year bobby, strange very strangexx

[kebab king]

Sorry, Lorraine. I need to correct what I wrote before - I confused it with me booking online for my test...

Andy did have to telephone for an appointment, but once that was done it was quick & easy.

Bobby-

You only got one year? Andy got until his new I-94 expires (two years).

He also had to wait for the new one to be mailed - it took 27 days to arrive.

Kristina

[lorraine]

Hi thanks Kristina, so does anyone know why bobby only got a year!!!!!!!! Maybe they have plans for bobby in a year he he hexxxxxxxx

[Bobby]

It was a very good friend of ours that served us at DMV so if it was possible for me to get 2 years then I would have. She's very clued up on her job, so perhaps I should have chosen a newbie to renew mine.

Do you think that I was only given one year because it was only an address change, and not a full renewal of an out of date license?? Perhaps that explains it??

Bobby

[punky]

I wouldn't have thought so... Its stipulated in the PATRIOT act that driving licenses must expire when you're right to remain in the US expires. I had a pre-9/11 driving license (10 year) and had to change my address. They then capped this to expire at the end of my visa-waiver (visa had expired then).

[Jax]

Hi
I have been told by friends who renewed there license in October the rules have changed and unless you are a usc you will only get 1 year on your license.We renewed early this year and got until I-94 date
Jax

[Joanie]

This is true. As from 1st October, if you are not a US citizen, you will have to renew your license every year.

[punky]

Thanx for letting us know. Solves that mystery then.

When you say citizen, do you mean legal permanant residents as well (green card holders) as well?

[haytonmac]

hi,just sorted my license and as a green card be given 7 yrs cos we have had our green cards 3yrs but that would still make it up to 10 yrs had we done it all at the same time had we been here.

[Kriz1]

In MA you only go into the DMV every ten years for an eye test....you renew online....every five years...

In MA...its really down to luck if you don't have a greencard if you get a five year license or not...if the State trooper likes you he will put in a good word....I got a five year renewable with only 2 years left on my visa...so did hubby....
If you come from a country that drives on the same side of the road as the USA you don't take a test...

[kebab king]

Does anyone know why they have changed this?

Bobby - would your friend at the DMV know?

-Kristina

[Bobby]

Kristina,

I will ask her and report back.

Bobby

[kebab king]

Thanks, Bobby :)

[Grumpy]

This is true. As from 1st October, if you are not a US citizen, you will have to renew your license every year.


Thats a bumm-r, more time wasting for us and more revenue for them

Have you a link to any information ?

[chris]

Ref Joanne and Jax's comments about the change in the law. Is this the chinese whisper or is the legislation out there for all to see. Checked the Florida DMV site and it doesn't say anything. Perhaps someone can post a link where we can all see it from the horses mouth, as it were.
Renewed ours back in August and got just over 2 years (license now runs beyond I94 expiry date.

[Sharon]

Maybe it is discrectionary and not written in black and white. I read somewhere on this forum that the immigration staff at airport have a little black book hand guide for them, and is not for public viewing

[chris]

That may be the case for immigration at the POE, but we're talking driving licenses here. Florida licenses go by what Florida does and is influenced by USCIS policy. But the Florida DMV says nothing about these 'alleged' changes. I think the only right way with things like this is to find out the 'rule' and publish it or the link to it. Otherwide we are into the Chinese Whisper.

[lorraine]

Hi everyone we have our appt Tuesday morning to renew our drivers licence. We shall then know as we have a 2 year renewal of L1 lets see what we get one year or 2, shall let you knowxxxxxx

[mark]

http://www.hsmv.state.fl.us/ddl/faqkeys.html#NUSC





Non-United States Citizens


Original Driver License or Identification Card Florida law requires identification, proof of date of birth and social security number (if issued) from all customers before a driver license or identification card can be issued.

Immigrants
Each immigrant who applies for an original driver license or identification card must submit:



Alien Registration receipt card, (Green card, Form I-551); or
I-551 stamp in passport or on I-94; or
Immigration Judges Order, with the customer's A-number, granting asylum; or
I-797, with the customer's A-number, stating the customer has been granted asylum; or
I-797 or another form from the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services, with the customer's A-number, stating the customer's application for Refugee status is approved; or
Non-Immigrants

Each non-immigrant who applies for an original driver license or identification card must submit:


Employment authorization card issued by the United States Department of Justice (Form I688B or I-766); or
Proof of nonimmigrant classification provided by United States Department of Justice (Form I-94, not expired, with required supporting attachment(s). If in doubt regarding required documents, please bring all of your INS documentation with you.). I-94s must be accompanied by a Passport. Certain classifications require additional documentation. Some examples are:
F-1 and M-1 classification must also be accompanied by an I-20.
I J-1 or J-2 designation must be accompanied by an IAP-66.
Refugee, asylee and parolee classifications must be accompanied by additional documentation.


The following documents will only be accepted with a supporting document, including but not limited to a Passport, Florida Driver License or Identification Card, Driver License from any other state, Employment Authorization Card, Employer Identification, Identification from home country, Identification from school or college, Social Security Card or other INS document.



I-571 Travel Document/Refugee Travel Permit
I-512 Parole Letter Accepted
IJO- Asylum or Cancellation of Removal - Immigration Judges Order granting Asylum or Cancellation of Removal.
All required and supporting documents MUST be original or certified.
Documents must be valid for more than 30 days from the date of issuance.
Non-U.S. citizens applying for an original driver license will be issued a 30-day, no photo, paper temporary permit and a receipt. Non-U.S. citizens applying for an identification card will be issued a receipt.
All records are transmitted to our database in Tallahassee, where the information will be examined and run against FDLE, FBI and INS databases.
Upon identity and legal status verification, a driver license or identification card will be issued within 30 days from Tallahassee, mailed to the address on the driver record. The license or identification card will be issued for the period of time specified on the INS document.
If a problem is detected, a denial of issuance letter will be mailed to the customer

[mark]

http://www.hsmv.state.fl.us/ddl/dlfaqans.html#4




Can I renew my license/ID Card online?
United States Citizens only: Just use the GoRenew. Driver license renewals (not ID Cards) can also be done by phone or by mail. If eligible to renew by mail, you will be sent a renewal application about 45 days before your birthday. Just return the application along with the appropriate fee in the enclosed envelope. An extension sticker or new license will be sent to you. As part of the "motor-voter" process you can complete an on-line voter registration application for an initial registration in your county of residence or make changes (i.e.,address change) to your current registration.

NOTE: Commercial Driver Licenses (CDL), Valid in Florida Only Licenses and licenses expired over one year cannot be renewed online, by phone, or by mail. (NOTE: Proof of citizenship or legal presence may be required for renewal, duplicate or replacement licenses. Please come prepared to present an identification document as proof of citizenship or legal presence.)

Non-United States Citizens: You must apply in person at a driver license office and present proof of legal presence.

[mark]

That may be the case for immigration at the POE, but we're talking driving licenses here. Florida licenses go by what Florida does and is influenced by USCIS policy. But the Florida DMV says nothing about these 'alleged' changes. I think the only right way with things like this is to find out the 'rule' and publish it or the link to it. Otherwide we are into the Chinese Whisper.


Hi

From what I have read, if you are not a citizen then you must appear in person to obtain a license or renewal.

You have to take proof you are in the USA and legal. I cannot find anywhere that confirms how long renewal you will be given.

Am I missing something?

[lorraine]

Hi Mark they told me you must appear in person so I think you are correctx

[chris]

I can only tell you what happened with our renewals which have been done 2 times now, the last one being in August of this year.
The most recent one: You renew in person - that's the main thing. You take your passport and your new I-94 OR if you are applying to renew the I-94 (extension of stay) the USCIS receipt will suffice. You sign the docs they prepare, pay your money (in 10 years we pay 5 times more than US citizens do just to rub it in!) and they will give you a non-photo paper driving licence that is good for 30 days. Meantime your proper licence will be mailed to you from Tallahasee within that 30 days. Our licences came and were for slightly more than the date our I-94's will will run for (which we are still waiting for from Vermont by way of California). We went into the Osceola Tax Collectors office on Beaumont, which has now relocated to the new center on 192/Partin Settlement. You can get the licences renewed in Kissimmee at the DMV office up OBT but that isn't open Mondays. We had a wait of about 45 minutes or thereabouts (but compared to London who's counting!), the lady we dealt with was knowledgeable and courteous and we had a laugh with as as well. All in all it's not a painful experience.
But the change in license times mentioned earlier is a complete mistory to me. I can only suggest that when people 'hear' about these alleged changes from other folks, we try and get more info as to where these changes are posted. The chinese whisper and the grapevine can be great things, they can also be dangerous things.

[lorraine]

We are going for renewal on Tuesday at 9 am. We shall ask if we get our licence renewed till same date as our new I94 which is June 2008, let you know thenx

[lorraine]

Hi all just back from renewal of driving licence. From the horses mouth(although I could call her something worse) all non american citizens now only get 1 year renewal. We both got one year. xx

[Bobby]

I was beginning to feel like the village leper, only being given one year, so although I'm not glad, as such, that you only got one year, I am of course satisfied that it's the new rules and not something that they only applied to ME!
I still haven't received my license in the post ??? I'm not particularly worried, but I'd like to have it. I've been ID's twice and could have done with it. Not for drink! (Those who've met me know that those days were a little while ago). Just confirming who I was when I presented a credit card etc.
Bobby

[lorraine]

No you not a leper we all are he hexxxxxxxx

[Sharon]

seems that way I agree

Lorraine did they tell you the reason for the change?

[lorraine]

They wernt very pleasant quite rude, they just said new law if you not a american citizen you have to renew every year

[Susie]

They wernt very pleasant quite rude, they just said new law if you not a american citizen you have to renew every year


Hi Lorraine

Makes me laugh, well if I didn't laugh I could cry,

How the hell do they manage to make these new laws up, seems like overnight? yet nobody is told about the proposed new law until introduced

Just like in a game of football, they move the goal posts but forget to tell the goal keeper

Just like shutting the stable door after the horse has bolted !

[Kriz1]

We still have no laws like that in MA...wonder why you do in FL...

[Bobby]

It could be related to the huge amounts of immigrants flooding this area. I presume that they are thinking it deters or sends illegals elsewhere.
As most of you know, it's very difficult to function in any town without a drivers license. Not least for ID purposes, but without it you can't drive legally or obtain insurance for the same.
If they make us prove our status every year it's more money in the coffers too. They definitely have us over a barrel, every way possible.

Bobby

[lorraine]

They sure do... I was in a supermarket the other day and this American guy said oh are you from England? I said yes, wow he said all you british are so rich we hear you come here with so much money. I said yes and its not long before you Americans take the whole lot off of us!!!!!!!!!!!

[haytonmac]

Well done Lorraine a good one for the international relations! LOL they have not the first clue do they?!

[Kriz1]

Well MA has a few safe counties...places where illegals can't be deported from...but its also very hard to keep a job if you are illegal in most of it...we now have a new guy in power who wants to give jobs to every illegal...plus in State school fees...and free healthcare...illegal is the way to go in this country...not a place I want my grandson to grow up in the way its going...hoping he'll move somewhere else in the future...the USA is going downhill for people without a lot of spare money...

[lorraine]

Haytonmac they really dont have a clue!!!!!!! Where we live it is completely American community. All of our friends are american and we have some wonderful close friends, they are shocked totally as to what we have to go through to stay here. When they fully understand it they just cant believe it. I do believe however it is the same for them going to our country. Most Americans we have come across think that as we are the sister country we can come here very easily mmmmmmmmmmm we all know different dont we ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[haytonmac]

oh yes!!!